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Post by The Agent on Feb 7, 2007 6:43:09 GMT -5
Hello A-Men, You can discuss my researches in the 'INTO THE M-FIELD' section here, since such threads are basically dissertations closed to public. I'm looking forward your suggestions, or even corrections. Let's hope there will be some substantial feedback. As far as 'Costumes' is concerned, I'm still in chaos about the Pre-Crisis Animal Man's suits (especially the googles) and yet not so sure about the Mixed One which appeared at the end of Morrison's run, Deus Ex Machina (Animal Man #26). I'm not sure about Brian's depicting of the costume for the cover of #26, too. So please, if you want, feel free to correct me. On a side note: I would say that Milligan and Veitch's runs are legit ( Animal Man #27-50), but Morrison expressely negated their developments when he reprised Animal Man on the JLA pages. On the other hand, the Vertigo era of the character (Delano/Prosser) had been definitely declared as being "out of continuity".  Many thanks to everyone! (the board is open to guests, as always). |
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Post by 1573 on Apr 19, 2008 20:19:50 GMT -5
the 2 wonder woman appearances are also now considered no longer in continuity.
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Post by The Agent on Apr 20, 2008 7:20:31 GMT -5
the 2 wonder woman appearances are also now considered no longer in continuity. NO WAIT! In the New Earth's newly "merged" space-time continuum/continuity, Wonder Woman's "Silver Age" past has been restored... Thus that happened!!!  |
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Post by 1573 on Apr 20, 2008 8:49:18 GMT -5
yes, the wonder woman past is restored (not particularly happy about that either) but the 2 animal man stories are still not in continuity.
sorry.
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Post by The Agent on Apr 20, 2008 9:37:23 GMT -5
yes, the wonder woman past is restored (not particularly happy about that either) but the 2 animal man stories are still not in continuity. sorry. Well, you could be right my friend. Wondering HOW they (the writers) will handle this "restoration" in Wonder Woman's past...  So what about 'LEGENDS'? |
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Post by minominop on May 6, 2008 22:01:55 GMT -5
What was in those stories that would keep them from being in continuity? What about the Forgotten Hero's storylines?
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Post by 1573 on May 6, 2008 22:46:58 GMT -5
What was in those stories that would keep them from being in continuity? What about the Forgotten Hero's storylines? exactly, i'm not sure. i think it's probably more that the stories do not fit chronologically into buddy's reworked/revamped/retconned history. however, who's to say that they don't take place on 1 of the 52 other earths? the forgotten heroes stuff is in continuity. we've seen this post-crisis. |
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Post by minominop on May 7, 2008 11:13:02 GMT -5
exactly, i'm not sure. i think it's probably more that the stories do not fit chronologically into buddy's reworked/revamped/retconned history. Why don't they fit chronologically? Does anyone know? |
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Post by 1573 on May 7, 2008 11:18:01 GMT -5
exactly, i'm not sure. i think it's probably more that the stories do not fit chronologically into buddy's reworked/revamped/retconned history. Why don't they fit chronologically? Does anyone know? as far as i can tell, it's just the way buddy's back story has been reworked/revamped/retconned, the events and his age just don't match up. it all coul dbe easily resolved w/ another simple retcon though. however, i think dc is probablly worried about getting wonder woman's history straightened out 1st before they worry about the 2 little animal man appearances in her book. by eliminating those stories from continuity, it save them the headache of figuring out how to fit them into 2 different heroes story. |
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Post by minominop on May 7, 2008 11:49:40 GMT -5
So it's just a matter of how old he looked in the story? Couldn't that be expained by artist interpretation on the character? We seem to be doing that alot lately with the current storylines and Animal Mans costume.
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Post by 1573 on May 7, 2008 12:09:52 GMT -5
yes, that would be the easy fix but apparently dc isn't going for the easy fix.
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Post by The Agent on May 7, 2008 13:51:43 GMT -5
So it's just a matter of how old he looked in the story? Couldn't that be expained by artist interpretation on the character? We seem to be doing that alot lately with the current storylines and Animal Mans costume. I think age is the main issue. See the ORIGINS file. The Post-IC New Earth Animal Man is younger than the Post-ZH Earth-Zero Animal Man, for instance. Consequentially, his origins have been retconned as well. |
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Post by minominop on May 8, 2008 22:50:56 GMT -5
I read that file, and boy was it complicated. I think I understood it all, but comics are supposed to be fun arn't they? The whole crisis, after crisis situation is giving me a headach. I hope final crisis really is the final one. They use that word too much. It's not so big anymore.
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Post by 1573 on May 10, 2008 12:00:24 GMT -5
i agree, looking into the multiple "versions" of buddy just confuses things a bit.
yes, there is probablly a version on each of the 52 earths.
but as for pre-crisis, post-crisis, earth- 1, earth sigma, etc, i don't think they necessarilly "exsist" or play a factor in what's going on now.
but, as usual, that is just my opinion.
nothing right or wrong about it, just my opinion.
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Post by minominop on May 10, 2008 13:11:08 GMT -5
I think you're right. I wish they would have more simpler stories, and not the convoluted mish-mash that they produce alot of now. I'm not saying they should go back to the comics code authority days but.......stories don't have to be complex to be good. (All Star Superman)
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So what about 'LEGENDS'?