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Post by themaestrox on May 27, 2008 20:41:30 GMT -5
Hey all. I just found the site, and I am a big Animal Man fan. This topic may have been covered before, so I appologise for any repetition.
I have been a bit concerned recently with Animal Man's treatment in the comics. Ever since his re-introduction to main stream comics during Infintie Crisis he seems to have gotten himself pigeon holed as a space adventurer. IC, 52, Countdown to Adventure and now Rann/Thanagar: Holy War. Now I understood it in IC and 52, it made sense, but in CtA it appeared much more like a "hey, that was fun, lets do it again" decision coming from an "if it aint broke, dont fix it" mindset, and now with RT:HW he appears to be well involved with that crowd in the DCU again.
So I guess my question to all of you is, do you like this new direction for Buddy? Are you happy to see Buddy continually floating through space and finding convinient aliens that have just the right abilities at just the right time to get him out of a scrape. Opposed to the street level, working class hero that has to deal with what hes got and what creature happens to be near by.
I personally prefer the later, ten times more than the former. While Buddy's JLA appearance coming up has some promise, I hope like hell that Buddy returns to the hero Morrison established, and I would love to see more adventures involving the established status quo from the frist trade of Morrisons work.
Leave the space heroics to the spce heroes. To me, Buddy is not one of them.
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Post by geekgazette on May 27, 2008 20:52:28 GMT -5
I'm not the biggest fan of the space hero stuff, but I like how they expanded the character. As they're portraying him he has the potential to be incredibly powerful. So I like how the character has developed, but I don't like the direction they've taken him. I guess you could say that I'm torn.
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Post by Maverick on May 27, 2008 21:32:25 GMT -5
As much as I'd like to see him a mainstay on the JLA, or even Outsiders, he seems destined for space for the time being.
Hey, as long as hes not just tossed aside I'm fine with it.
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Post by minominop on May 27, 2008 21:36:31 GMT -5
Like L.E.G.I.O.N, remember them? What happened to them?
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Post by 1573 on May 27, 2008 22:12:20 GMT -5
a story w/ buddy in space is a lot better than no buddy story at all.
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Post by themaestrox on May 28, 2008 2:00:03 GMT -5
Sure, of course. However, which would you prefer;
Animal Man: Space Adventurer (able to tap into any animal anywhere in the universe) or Animal Man: Working Class Hero (able to tap into animals only in his immediate vacinity)
I prefer Animal Man: Working Class Hero.
The space adventurer reduces his relevance, and part of his appeal. Also the universe expanding anthropomorphic field is a cop out IMO, and results in poor writing.
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Post by The Agent on May 28, 2008 6:24:45 GMT -5
Maestrox,
Welcome aboard, great thread.
I think this "misconception" about Buddy started during the Crisis on Infinite Earths, when the Earth-One Animal Man was sent in space along with the Forgotten Heroes. Said that, have you ever thought that MAYBE they (the writers) found necessary to keep him away from Earth, since he's the most powerful superhero ever been and would rival Superman way too much? ;D ;D ;D
(I'm not joking).
Essentially, I think they had the priority to "enlist" Animal Man in some specific environment/geographical location, and chose space.
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Post by 1573 on May 28, 2008 10:21:47 GMT -5
Sure, of course. However, which would you prefer; Animal Man: Space Adventurer (able to tap into any animal anywhere in the universe) or Animal Man: Working Class Hero (able to tap into animals only in his immediate vacinity) I prefer Animal Man: Working Class Hero. The space adventurer reduces his relevance, and part of his appeal. Also the universe expanding anthropomorphic field is a cop out IMO, and results in poor writing. honestly, it doesn't matter to me. i don't mind buddy in space. i don't think it's poor writing. i say it's an expansion on an idea. as for "(able to tap into animals only in his immediate vacinity)", it's been revealed a while back that buddy taps into the morph. field for his abilities. the animals do not have to be in the immediate vicinity. so buddy could tap into the space animals even from earth.
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Post by minominop on May 28, 2008 10:52:46 GMT -5
Talk about a long commute to work. Buddy is a family man and he should know better than that. I understand what is being said, and I agree with themaestrox on some points. One of the many appeals of Animal Man is his unique family life. Not many Heroes have a wife and kids, and powers as well. In space they can't really dwell on this part of his life, so i probably wont come up that often. On the other hand maybe we could think up many ways Animal Man could kill Superman. ;D
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Post by Maverick on May 29, 2008 1:59:04 GMT -5
I would rather see Buddy on Earth myself. I'd rather see him with his family, and interacting with other heroes from time to time than be stuck in space. Even tho I do enjoy his space adventures, I hope afterwards he gets enough recognition to be taken seriously, and given some stories on Earth.
I also really liked the team in IC, I think it was:
Animal Man Red Tornado Cyborg Donna Troy Metamorpho Starfire Supergirl Alan Scott Jade Airwave Firestorm
That right there, minus a couple: Airwave and Jade, maybe replace Alan for Kyle, would make a kick ass team. Nothing but potential, especially with Buddy leading the way.
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Post by minominop on Jun 9, 2008 12:29:32 GMT -5
I would like to see Animal Man in a solo book again. That way, his character could be fleshed out more. As a team player in space he barely gets any story time. He's just there to fill in dialogue. I think he had lot more exposure in Countdown then he does in this new series he's in.
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Post by The Agent on Jun 9, 2008 19:00:55 GMT -5
I would like to see Animal Man in a solo book again. That way, his character could be fleshed out more. As a team player in space he barely gets any story time. He's just there to fill in dialogue. I think he had lot more exposure in Countdown then he does in this new series he's in. Let's hope they have big plans for him. I bet writers think he's a rather "difficult" character to write about, and I agree. They don't know how to "handle" him. I think this is the naked truth they are not going to reveal to audiences.
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Post by minominop on Jun 9, 2008 20:03:16 GMT -5
Why would he be more challenging to write about?
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Post by The Agent on Jun 10, 2008 13:02:22 GMT -5
Why would he be more challenging to write about? Because he's not your average, conventional good guy to pit against bad guys after a bank robbery. He's weird.
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Post by minominop on Jun 10, 2008 13:36:52 GMT -5
What? And Batman isn't? All superheroes are unconventional. Superman is an alien.
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