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Post by hellstormer on Feb 15, 2007 20:40:40 GMT -5
If metahumans are technically mammals then why can't Animal Man copy all of their powers? And since Superman's around and any other alien why can't he use theirs? Something doesn't make sense there.
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Post by The Agent on Feb 16, 2007 7:18:44 GMT -5
If metahumans are technically mammals then why can't Animal Man copy all of their powers? And since Superman's around and any other alien why can't he use theirs? Something doesn't make sense there. Likely, A-Man's morphogenetic grafts are synched with any specific animal "M-Field", except the humanoid one whom he belongs to. Basically, humanoid terrestrials and aliens share at least the form factor, and that's enough to keep Animal Man far from absorbing the alien qualities/faculties of Superman or any other antropomorphized extraterrestrial out of there. What I don't get is this: is A-Man supposed to not be able to "reproduce" gland and endocrinal abilities? I don't think he could fabric webs like a spider, or emit black ink as an octopus, or spit mouth venom as a snake. Granted, one of the authors let him to do that in one or two occasions, but I don't agree. In the MORRISON'S RUN (**CANON**) it's clear that Animal Man can aquire only animal abilities which draw a parallel with human physiology, like producing electricity as an eel (human body get an electrical charge) or changing skin colour like a chamaleon (human skin HAS a colour). What's your suggestion? |
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Post by The Agent on Feb 16, 2007 20:45:35 GMT -5
MMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
Found this:
"Most octopuses can eject a thick blackish ink in a large cloud to aid in escaping from predators. The main colouring agent of the ink is melanin, which is the same chemical that gives humans their hair and skin colour. This ink cloud dulls smell, which is particularly useful for evading predators that are dependent on smell for hunting, such as sharks."
!!! So the ink has an "human equivalent"... MELANIN inside skin. Basically, Animal Man should be able eject ink from the skin surface. So it's not an error. He can do that.
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Post by hellstormer on Feb 23, 2007 22:51:23 GMT -5
And the venom that snakes spit is a form of the acid in our stomachs meaning he can do that as well.
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Post by The Agent on Feb 25, 2007 7:08:27 GMT -5
And the venom that snakes spit is a form of the acid in our stomachs meaning he can do that as well. That's really true, Hellstormer, many thanks! Glad to see that someone "grasped" my theory on Buddy's powers, heavily supported by Grant's run (which is the only and absolute *CANON*). On a side note, spider-web has no chemical equivalent in human body, so Buddy cannot really produce that... |
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Post by The Agent on Mar 1, 2007 15:00:06 GMT -5
Still, I never fully understood if Buddy requires ALIVE animals in order to sample animal abilities, to begin with. According to his dialogue in week 43 ( 52), he needs something ALIVE in order to tap into it. According to Animal Man #2... he complained about the dogs whom he tapped into... but it's not clear if they were DEAD or barely alive (but alive nonetheless). So?  |
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Post by minominop on May 11, 2008 22:32:16 GMT -5
It looks like he doesn't need to have a live specimen or even a dead one since he can tap into the m-field directly. But I always figured he couldn't tap into another humanoid's power because either it was a restriction put upon him by the aliens, or there's another field besides the M one for sentience.
I know there is supposed to be a speed field that the Flash taps into.
There is also a Green field that the Swamp Thing can access.
So then there's the M-field that Buddy can use and I think it was called The Red at some point but I don't remember exactly where. (I think Vertigo)
What other fields have been catalogued?
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Post by 1573 on May 11, 2008 23:12:23 GMT -5
i don't think buddy woul dhave a problem tapping into another human's abilities as long as they are natural abilities. he's not going to be able to a flash's speed because the speed comes from the speed force, not a natural ability. he would probablly have to use dc's version of "mutants". they would have to be born w/ the abilities. wow, animal man would kick major ass in the marvel universe w/ all the different mutant abilities they have there. superman is kind of questionable here. to him his abilities are natural. all kryptonians have them under the yellow sun. wait, now that buddy can tap into all animals, including alien, why wouldn't he be able to tap into a kryptonian? holy crap, i think i just figured out how animal man could take on the big blue boy scout.  |
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Post by The Agent on May 12, 2008 6:43:00 GMT -5
Guys, friends, pals: You're DEAD wrong.  Let's go to do your homework on RUPERT SHELDRAKE and his outstanding morphic fields theory, hurry up! ;D On our planet, Buddy has access to "standardized" and "generic" morphic fields generated by the countless earthling species, ALL inserted into the absolute morphogenetic field of Earth. Wherever an human being presents some (mutant or acquired) powers, he/she somehow "diverges" from the morphic field of mankind, and the genetic infos related to his/her powers aren't going to be STORED in that same morphic field. I was just wondering about dead animals. ;D |
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Post by minominop on May 12, 2008 10:10:24 GMT -5
He doesn't need the actual animal to access it, so do you mean extinct animals?
Also, where did you get this info?
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Post by 1573 on May 12, 2008 10:15:12 GMT -5
please excuse my ignorance but you the hell is RUPERT SHELDRAKE?
and what's he got ot do w/ buddy and the dcu?
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Post by 1573 on May 12, 2008 10:45:31 GMT -5
ok, nevermind. i found out who RUPERT SHELDRAKE is. here's a link if anyone else wants to know. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Sheldrakethrowing this guy into the mix kind of ruins my "suspension of belief". |
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Post by The Agent on May 12, 2008 17:49:01 GMT -5
He doesn't need the actual animal to access it Yeah, yeah, yeah, I pretty much know that, but I'm mainly referring to the first phase of his powers, when he was CONVINCED to be able to absorb abilities only from the animals he could feel through his superhuman "sensorial perception". Plus, do you remember that scene in Animal Man #1 where Buddy and Roger were walking in the woods, and Buddy mentioned to be somehow able to feel when an animal die? |
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Post by minominop on May 12, 2008 18:11:22 GMT -5
Plus, do you remember that scene in Animal Man #1 where Buddy and Roger were walking in the woods, and Buddy mentioned to be somehow able to feel when an animal die? Yeah. I don't think that ever came up again in any storyline. But don't quote me on that. On a side note I wonder if he has access to extinct animals like dinosaurs. |
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Post by The Agent on May 12, 2008 18:29:16 GMT -5
Mino,
You're d**n right, that point never surfaced again in Morrison's run.
Yes, he has access to dinosaurs and every form of life on Earth beyond space and... time.
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Let's go to do your homework on RUPERT SHELDRAKE and his outstanding morphic fields theory, hurry up! ;D